>> great. i heard brad doesn't like the chilly air. so just we put >> mar a hat on him. >> thank you, guys. so called our jesse. here we go. thanks a lot, jesse.en ladies and gentlemen, get set. we are just seconds away from our third straight town hall of the week right here in des moines. >> it's been a really busy week. all right, so as we approach the top of the hour and the start of this evening's specia topl welcome to the stage here in des moines, iowa, former president donald trump. >> welcome, mario. as we learn that the president. thank you very much, mr.. >> welcome. great to see. >> the first major test for

the republican presidential nomination is almost here. we're going to win the iowa caucuses and then we're goinr.gu to crush crooked joe biden next november. tonight, former president trump will address the most pressing issues facing the nation, the starting on the debt of our issug the border,ebt of our getting rid of the woke ideology, but a gauntletgetting of legal perils hovers over his campaign. they're not after me >> the. not after me thereafter you. there's no confusion about who trump is while his leadingo cono rivals unleash attacks. he's running on a lot of the things he to do in 2016 but then did not do. >> chaosised follows. . and we can't be a country in disarray. an'tfive days from the pivotaldi first in the nation caucuses, sarrthe path crowningnomine the republican nominee starts here. i'm goine g to be there.ther we're all going to be there together and we're going to be first. e. st in thyou're first in the natn because of me, but we're going to be america first again. it's america first.

welcome to des moines, iowa. good evening from the iowa events center. inestonight, the last of threesc special town halls thiias week just days before the first in the nation iowa caucuses. thank you. thatk you. president of right there. and we're here in det tos moore as we take a live look outside. it's col hd, it's brisk, it's snowy, but we're warm inside with a lot of questionswy from iowans. indeed we are. good evening, everybody. i'm martha maccallum. grea t to have you withd us tonight. we are joined by a roomfulby am of iowa voters.. >> some of them are decided, some them are undecided. that's why they're here tonight. some of them have been here more than night over the course of this week as they look forward to questioning the candidatesndecided . e candidatesndecided and tonight, it's the former president and the gop frontrunner. and we note once againd go, none of the campaigns have input

into who was invited, what the questions are that will be asked tonight. >> thank you ford ques being he, mr. president. >> we appreciate you making the track. the track. to offer our condolences to yoou and the former first lady, melania trump, for the loss of her mother last night her. >> thank you very much. great woman. thank you very much. appreciate it. we d.>> thao want to note that y there was some breaking campaign news. >> take a listen . cleara listen it's clear to me tonight that there isn't a path for me what there isn't a path for me is why i'm suspending i ammy campaign tonight for goig president, the united states. i am going to make sure that in no way to i enable donald trump to ever be president of the united states again. so that was a big news late tod today. the former governor of new jersey dropped outay of rach in new hampshire. you saw it there. there's a lot of speculation

and now that there could be a combining of forces of the people who supported com him at about 12% there. and by some estimate%.s you're ahead by an averageea of 14. >> in the real clear politics, average polling in new hampshirr e. so if if that 12 goes to nikki haley, she could give you a run for your money there. well, you know, you have y shs in new hampshireve and a vote and you have independents in new hampshire, large numbers and they vote. >> and i have polls that shos tw me leading by a tremendous amount in new hampshire and a lot in iowing by ta and nationwe are leading by almost 60 points. >> so i'm not worried about it. i understand new hampshire very well. i won it twice0 and did very well with new hampshire. i love the people. they love medid ve. i think we did a good job fork. new hampshire economically and even frowem the standpoint of the military taking care of the vets. >> and i think we're going to do very well in new hampshire. you know, chris christie wasy in and he got a hot mike i

heard about. mit actually the biggest story wasn't the fact that he dropped out. nobody cared too much about that. outbut he had a hot mic where he was talking to somebody about the weather and he happened to say that she doesn't have what it takes. she'll be creamen' d in the in theknow election. and i mean, i know it very well and i happen to believe that chris christie is right. >> that's one of the few things he's been right about. ris chri iactually. think >> so you don't think it i changes the dynamic much? ch does or not.amic much? look, we're winning tremendously here. we're i think we're 20, 24 points up. i brought some polls of you want to saw. inningy i'm, you know, justi in case. >> but i think we're 24 or 25 points up. but nebrought lls.w hampshirepo is interesting. it's a great place, a great state, unbelievablin e people.at staablin but they allow independents demothey allow independents republican primary. you say, what's that all about? sos to it's a little bit false in that regard. but even with that, i think we'll wi faultn substantially t. president. >> we want to get to our first questioner. werobert is an optometrist from ankeny. >> robert, where are you? do you know which way

you're going to caucus on monday? >> yes, i do. okay.. can we ask you. i'm going to vote for the third time for president trump. >> i like hie m. i knew i liked robert. what's your questioned for the former president? >> i just wanted to say also, thank you,questit want presidenr your support of the vets. my wife and i and my oldesp fot are all veterans of the united states army. we appreciate it. thank you very much. >> some of my friends that supported you in 2020 are not this time because they believe a trump presidency will bring for years of chaos due to your haters. >> what is your response to them? well, i think first of all, i'm glad you're asking the question, and i'm very glad that you started off by saying you're with me because i want you on my side wit. figured maybe fox would have written that question. it was jus t the second part of the question. >> but just so you understand, we didn't write any of the

questions with the question. >> just to be clear, we'll figure that one oute th pretty soon. but they have chaos now. >> they have chaos at the border. they have chaos in the military. people are going woke. we the greatest military in the world, except for the top where they want to, you know, turn a this beautiful thing we built. we beat isis, knocked them out. it was supposed to take four years. i did it in literally three months. >> was supposed to take four or five years. but we have chaos now. >> look at today with hunter biden going into the going into congress and just sitting down and the bedlam that's been caused today. weused today. we have, i think more with joe biden. he can't puth two sentences together and he's representing us on nuclear weapons with putin and xi and all of these very smars witht peopl. the media hates when i say they're smart, but let me tell you, they're very smart and they're very cunning. >> and i think he had very little chaosad very . s con i think most of the chaos was caused by the democrats constantly going afterstafter and remember this? remember, they were phoning

russia, russia. i mean, if you look at ukraine, ukraine, ukraine, everythingukr, was phony. >> the fisa warrants the lying to congress. they had chaos. they were the ones that caused e the chaos. we didn't have chaos. we got the biggest tax cuts in history, the biggest regulation tax cuts in history. >> i had no wars. i'm the only presidentt 72 years. i didn't have any wars. hanyand they love that narrativ but theythat use that narrative because they have nothing else. now, the new narrative they hav ie, as you know, is i'm going to be a dictator. that's going to be the new narrative because a gu.y biden, there's nothing he can run on. >> everything he's turned out, t it's turned out badly. the border is a disaster, the worst border in histor y, worst border in histor i think the worst border in the history of the world. >> we had the best borderderr in the history of our country. we never had a border likey li that. so i think we had very little chaos. i think we had tremendous succestts and, frankly, until covid came along. and then we did a great job on that, too. we never got the kinme.d of cret that i got on the economy,

but we had the greatest economy in history. >> and you take a look at our numbers. the numbers were so better than they are right now. we had no inflation. we had w noe were energy. independent. we were so we had so much energy. we ready to start supplying energy, selling energynergy, w to europe, asia. we would have started to pay down our debt. down our when covid came along, we had to do a little bit of a course change. but we had an incredible four years again, the greatest econom yearsy, the history of o country with no inflation pretty good. so i just think we are.ank yo thank you for your service and for your question. thanu hek you forer being here tonight. and one of the things that ron desantis said in a town hall hal this week was that it might feel good toel republicanst yo to vote for you and support you in the primary, but he felt they shouldn't leave the general election potentiallgeneral y. .c up to 12 jurors in a d.c. court. what do you say to him about that? >> well, it's a witch hunt el well, it's a witch hunt

if you look at it, it's election interference by biden becauseecerferenc. >> he can't win it fair bid and square. so he's doing that. and interestingly,en you see what happened in georgia with fani willis and $1,000,000 almost to her boyfriend as the prosecutor. trump. that one's blown up now. it's horrible what has taken place. i whe >> but it's very interesting when you loou k at ron's numbers, he's practically out of the race. in fact, a lot of people sayy hi he's leaving the race after iowa becauses le he's doing sory poorly. he's also doing very poorly, as you know, in new hampshire. i mean, really poorly. >> and i'm leading biden in every single poll that's been taken over the last month or two. t i just see one. i'm leading in michigan by 11. that's great. the auto are smart. they know that biden has sold them down the tubes with with a the electric cars. all electric car mandate. the craziest thing i've ever heard. and they're going to all be made in china, too. son i think when you look at what we've done and we are we are doing a great job

and we did a great job and that's why i'm leading in the polls by 60 and 70 point. you know, in recent days, you see the issu0 e warning that if in the courts and even s the u.s. supreme court, if they didn't treat you fairly, that maybe theret yo be bedlam d in the country. >> use that word. bedlam in the countr iy. and in the last two days, the same time in the last two speeches, president biden is focusing his campaign on the threa spet to democracy and political violence. >> take a listen . d truma listen and i'll say what donald trump want to do. the violence is nevep r ever acceptable to the united states political system. never, never, neveable, r. >> all right. so to robert's question, this is clearly a focus of the biden campaign. >> so can you say tonight that political violence is never acceptable? >> well, of course, that's right. and of course, i'm the one that had very little of it. takes i amhe look at wars again. i didn't start i wasn't involved in wars. beat the hell out of isis. we won 100%. we brought our troops

back home. look at look at the violence that we've had. look at violence we have recently. but when you say bedlam, what do you mean? i think it's bedlam. i think you look at joe biden. it's bedlaviolencem you have a e who can't lead. you have a man who can't find his way off a stage after he makes a speech that lasts for about 2 minutes. now, i think bedlam is joe biden. i think that he's using this. >> this is just a political ploy. trump is a dictator. he wants to be a dictator. you know, it's interesting. ployum, sean hannity, didg. you ever hear from is very nice man. >> and he said essentially, you're not going to be a dictator, are you? >> toby, i think he was trying to give me a nicer questiond that maybe you guys where he meant it very well. >> i saiaren't g to be d, i'm gd a dictatoric for one day. t we're going to do two things. the border bo. t so >> we're going to make it soht tight you can't get in unless you comet ge in legally. and the other is energy. we're going to drill, baby, drill after that.g >> i'm not going to be a dictator after that. i'm not going to be a

. m not going to be a so so, you know, the press picks it up.i so i said,am i'm going to ber on a dictator for one day. i cut it. they go, i'm going to be a dictatore ng to . , e >> but they cut the rest of the sentence. no, noi , i not going to be a dictator. >> i'm going to manage like we did we were so successful that the country was coming together. >> it was actually coming together and cominy togg. autifucominy >> well, it was a beautiful thing to see. and we're going to do that againl . all right. let's by the way, that's why let's by the way, that's why have, because the people i think thisthe is an example. >> i mean, i asked i a question. i said, how many people came last? e how many people came the night before? and i gocat night a very honest not many compared to what we have. we had a great crowdtot we and e a great governor. >> we want to hear from more of them. we do have a big crowd tonight. that's absolutely true. so let's hear from jane jack f, who is a teacher from rhodes, iowa.

jane, thank you so much for being here. for and said that you plan to caucus for desantis, complete but you're not completely decided. >> is that right? no, i am firmly i will caucusi be caucusing for desantis. but i will say, mr. president, i am extremely grateful that in your first term,eful in you accomplished so many great things. but it was also with the helpo i of many great people. >> since that time, you have t publicly criticized and personally demeaned so many of them. if you're given four more years, how wil deml you convinc good people to take the risks of working with you? >> so i have a lot of people that want to work with me. i have people calling just as i'm getting on the stage. i had a call from two of the very most importank witht ie military, one to come to work for me. everybody wants to come to work for us. >> we're going to have no c trouble. we had greatom wor people. e had a couple that were not great stiffs, as i would call them. ff but that's true with anybody. but now i've gotten to knoi wowl washington.

i've gotten to know the people. i know the best. i know the smart onee.ow thes aa ones, the weak ones, the strong ones. >> and i think you're going to see something like you've never seen before and that the people in this room know what we did and we did an amazing job. and the reason we have support is because of the job we did. nob w. h you like ron desantis, but he wouldn't even be around today. he'd be workinbeg a pizza shop p perhaps a law firm if i didn'tdi endorsdn'te. him f you know, i endorsed him, took him from nothingro to winning an election, and i was all for him. onand then one day he said he hi run againsnst me. >> four years later, after i got a man, and i said, that's not a loyal person. we can't have that. that's notal a loyal person. >> so i think you'll be very impressed with what we're going to do. we're going to have the greatest economy in the world, which we are to hav don'. >> right now. we have horrible, horrible inflatio, hon and. you know, you're never going to get that 30% down. you might even % , but you're not going to get it. >> so but thank you very much. i appreciate it. >> let me just ask you to m follow up on that about

who would be in your in your cabinet in your administration if you are the nominee, which i know you expect if you to be who woud be in the running for vice president? >> well, i can't tell you, really. i mean, i know who it's going to be. give us a hint. i'll give yoi can' tu we'll do g show sometime. >> what about any of the people who you've run againsive >> would you be open to mending fences? well, i will. >> i've already started like christie better. so . d oh, christie for vice president. i don't see it. i don't see it. that would be an upset, christie for vice president. gentlemen, i'd like to announce now, i do want to get to this other question before we before go move on to the big issues, and that is jacqueline . she is from west des moines. and dei thins mok you said you're undecided or in making your decision. >> that's correc decision?t. cu and do you havple a couplee people that you're looking at? trump and by vague. >> okay. what's your question tonight for the former president? my question is, i would like you to know, what do you plan to do

in your next term that you didn't quite get finished during your first term? >> well, one of the things would be energy, even though i set records on energy, but i was going to be energy dominant. we were energy independent and we had your bills low.olin we had a gasoline for the car to a dollar 87 a gallon.o we$1 had.8 down even lower thano that. at some point. now it's awer. t four and $5. and that's not acceptable. your home heating billsls, fo are four and five times higher than they were with me. urso i'd be doing that. i'd be doing i'd finish upe the wall. r >> you know, we built over five hundred miles of wall. s ofthat's one of the reasons we had the great. >> and we got mexico, by the way, and we got mexico very importantly, give use us 28,000 soldiers free of charge. that's more money than anybody can even imagine, free of charge. and we also remain in mexico policy, not remain here, remainl

in mexico. >> so we did a lot of great things. and i woult d just say we're going to just keep expanding. we rebuilt the militarp y. we even did something that hopefully nobody in this roomitary. but right to try whee we're able to use space ageablet medicines that won't be approved for four or five yearso use ag, that work ia cases. >> and i've saved thousands and thousandses lives with right to try. >> thank you very much. so we'll take a quick break. we're goinh.g to go talk about the economy when we come back. that ilks the number one issue in every poll on voters minds. so join us when we comek with right back with lots more questions for president trump. good to have you here, sir. ♪to my health is an accomplishment. concerns getting screened faded concerns getting screened faded away. to my astonishment, my doctor

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welcome back to our town hall with former president donald trump live from des moines. >> let's get back to some questions. let's get righ live fromt back r questions. this one from shelley flockhart. here she is.ut >> shelley, thank you for coming out tonight . ming out tonight what are you thinking nig about monday night and who you're going to support and what's your questionht a? a >> president trump is sitting right there. oh, than wk you. >> i knew that. i knew that when i looked at you. >> thank you very much. appreciate it. yes. so my question>> pre is, you'rea business owner. i'm a business owner. i own a smalowner.l business ane is money. would you ever is allow a shutn in the future? >> a shutdown in termshe of covd or a shutdown in terms of budget? because, you know, they're talking about a budget shutdown right now, but you're talking about a covid shutdown, correct? no, i wouldn't. and i never did. i let the governors makei lerno decisions, and some of them

like from south carolina, you knowthem fro, henry mcmaste, and frankly, north dakota, ennes a few of them tennessee. they didn't shut down at allee. florida did shut down. ron desantis shut down. or as he'sis now i'm run to sanctimonious. >> he he should have stayed very violently, actually, and shut the highways down the roads that but we had. i'm a federalist in a sense, becaus ae the federalist way. no, i didn't actually have a shutdown, despite the facte some people wanted to and some people didn't want to. but we had some great governors and the governors that did the best job were republican governorsor, and theb were the ones that didn't shut down. thant jok very much.. >> love you. appreciate it. but a lou.t of people say, you know, that you listen too much to dr. fauci. you were president at the time could have perhaps influenced keeping thingsf people more ope and, of course, ron desantis would definitely argued argu with your characterization of how he handled it. but if you go back and look

at the record, you will see >>.the record, you will see fauci was ron, just sanctimonious. >> he was a big fan. he said, i go by exactly quote, i go by what dr. said. >> he said that too much and all the way through and that eventually when it wasn't, you know, that wasn't the dessert of the day. but ron desantis was a big dr. fauci fan, and nobody wants to cover that. i say it every time. i don't care if he was or not. but, you know. the when they hit me with this question, dr. fauci was not a huge factor in my administration. he became a much bigger factor in biden's administration. he was he was somebody that was in government for 40 years. he did it for 40 years. >> that's a long time. and what d to i say you know, you've been doing this for 40 years. get out. but he wasn't a big factora bi in me. he was a really big factor. after i left with my, you know, on an economic shutdown, you said this week in an interview that if there's a economic. y crash, that you he

it happens now. yeahs . that you don't want to be herbert hoover. i don't want to be here. you're not sayinyou arg you're a crash. just to be clear. no, i think this i thinke k this the economy is horrible, except the stock market's going up. and i think the stock market's got markets going up becausese e i'm leading biden in all of the polls. >> every poll, every single poll for the las pot whichthe las states it normally are not easyt to leave. ennsylva you know, when you're leading in pennsylvania, you're leading in michigan, you're leadingding in wisconsin, we're leading in virtually every state. n virtuaand part of the swing s >> and overall, we're leading by a lot nationwide. but i would say this we have a situation in which i believe the stock market goes up because i'm leadini belig. i think if i wasn't leading, the stock market would be 25% lower. >> and i think, frankly, it leaf i didn't win, i think the stock market would crash when. whe >> there's a crash. i hope it's going to be during this next 12 months, because i don't want be herbert hoover.

>> well, i think there will be a crash if i don't win. and i say that and i do not d want to be herbert hoover. >> but, you know, herbert t wanthoover was 1929. >> he was the president. and that was not a good time to be i don't want to be herbert hoover and i won't be herbert hoover. >> so with regard to, you know, when governor haley was herethae other night, she talked about the $8 trillion added she to the debt. yeah. when you were president, how do you how do you address that? >> very easily. we were doing better thanho anybody has ever done forg two and a half years. be, and a half years. were getting ready to start selling oil to asil toa to euro. >> we're going to pay downwe our debt where we were at that time wer, at like $29 trillion.o now we're $36 trillion, w but we're going to start paying down our debt. we're going to do the things that nobody could believe. you take a look at saudi arabia. aook atyou a look at some of te countries. >> take a look at russia. bide, biden up the cost cause of energy. that's what caused inflation. but it's also what caused putin to become rich enough to go he become rich enough to go

>> and he never even talks about it. he's the one that caused that war, both rhetorically and by the fact that he drove up the price of oil to $100 a barrel, which is getting close to record. and putin was making a fortune. he's the only guy who made a fortune during a war. >> if he didn't have it, i was at $40 a barrel, if he was at $40 a barrel, putin wouldn't have done it now. he wouldn't have done it for another reason. >> me, he wouldn't have done it, but he also wouldn't have done because he couldn'tit have done it because oil wasn't high enough. >> at $100 a barrel. he made a lot of money and he's making a lot of money because it's so high. >> so when it is what costs,it it's also what caused the inflation because energy is so big, it's soenergy i it'sh a big deal that when energy goes up, if you make donuts, if you make hamburgers, if you do anything, you do, you haveeliver trucks that deliver your product, you have to heat y stoves, your ovens, anything you do, it's all energy.

and we have the highest cost ovd we have the highest cost >> you know, when they talk about new hampshire, new hampshire is the highest price of energy, the highest price of energy, the highest in nation. t they should vote for me because i'm going to cut their energy prict the in half. >> so when nikki haley and ron desantis hit you again and again on this $8 trillion figure and call you a big government republican, what do you say? i said very simply, we were starting to pay down debt. we were going to pay down a lotg of debt when kobove came along. >> if i didn't inject this country with money, you would have hadry wit a depression, the likes of which you've never seen. >> you had to injectn . >> we gave businesses that were going bankrupt temporarilybusini bankrupt, but they needed money. >> we helped businesses. if i i do that, you would have had a depression in this country that was a very good investment. >> and now what they should be, instead of the kind of debt that they're building at record levelse do, they should be payig down their debt and they ought to go into the energy businessdd

instead of this green new scam business that they're in. >> but what about the future.e u what about cutting spendinreg $y trillion in debt? >> let's look at what you would ins getting that numberid would down. >> what would you get rid of? we have a lot of cutting, but we also have a lot of income. we have more liqui alsod gold,e liqui our feet, energy, oil and gas than any other country oil. >> the world, more than saudi arabia, more than russia. and when i cam russia.e in, we e number four when i left. you know, not that long fou a period of time, four years. we were number one by a lot. u and we were soon going to double up saudi arabia and russia combined. and we were going to make a loto of money. we have a lot of of potential incomet of. desantis wants to cut socialis security and medicare. nikki haley wants to cut social security and medicare. nikki haley wanted raise the age from 65 to 74, 75% for young people, their twenties.

i mean, that that's going to run is what they say that's what they know. >> at some point someone has to address it. right? that's what they say residentat is . say it starts they say only for young people. it's only for young people. and then it doesn't work for young people and they end up getting up to people that aregod of the age where it matters no. good. >> all right. let's go t o kim, a small business owner from ryan's. is that correct? kim, where are you? that is correct. do you know who you're caucusin hat isg for monday? i am proud to say i am a caucus captain for president trump with a wife and gold hat. i have that white and gold. thank you very much. m >> that's beautiful. thank you very much. what's your question for the former president? >> you said that you can take care of the border in 24 hoursae after taking office. how will you gather the severale millions that have already entered our country illegallyunr and return them to their country of origin? r qu >> great question. it's not sustainable for our country. we have millions and millions

of people here. it >> presi is not sustainable. did you see in new york citydido with it getting the regular s students out and they're putting migrants in theis ouro place? we are going to havehe the largest deepwater nation effort in the history of our country. we're bringing everybodyntrywe back to where they came from. we have no choice. weice. have choice. you know? b you, denisret: de, is here as w. denise, where are you now? denise to our town hall last night. she came in sayingn ha that she was, if i remember correctly, you were leaning towards president trump, but you did cot say you heard some things last night that were in light. so where lik are tonight? >> i spoke with a lot of really close friends after last night. they were all up. i wanted to know how it went and we got back to president trump. >> we just love you. how you were when he left. he just he mentioned, i think, m something that you're concerned about. >> what what's your question ar questwhat's your question

you just answered part of it that kids were were displaced in new york city is right in the place newy. of illegal migrants. so what i want to know, in the spirit of making america, greatat again, can you do something about the sanctuar y cities? >> yeah, well, they're going to be ended because the democrats are going to end>e because you can't sustain it. if you look at new york, you have a mayor of new yorkil now is really hostile to the administration because new york city, that's my place. >> i love new york.nist it's gonratie. >> it's had a tough time. the previous mayor was pre previous mayor was . our country. de blasio gave de blasio the worst. the >> but what's happened is we cannot this countrsty sustain 15 or 16 million people, because i think that's a real th. s adminiink that's a real >> i think by the time his administration ends, it i and hopefully quickly, it's going to be 18 million people that's bigger than new york state. that's bigger than jus statetr about every state other than one or two. >> illion 18 million people remembr

this. many of those people come from and prisons. >> many of those people come from mental institutions and insane asylums. >> and many of those people are terrorists . i orists >> you know, i saw on fox the other day, it was horrible. w onbut beautiful because fromin my standpoint, in 2016, they no terrorists that they know of. >> they came into the country and none year i had the travel ban. t they call it the trump travel ban. they tried to make a big deal. the supreme cour it very intelligently approved it. without that, we would have had blowly up. >> so we had no terrorist attacks at all. during my four years, we had the trump travel ban. >> and by the way, iran wasi sad broke. >> iran was broke. i said to china, if you buy oil. from iran, you're not dealing in here. >> they immediately dropped india, italy, all of these countries were buying froma, iran. >> iran would give out billionsd of dollars to terrorists. they had no money.. i watched a democrat congressman the other day on one of the shows, and he said , i'll say one thingng

about trump. he said, trump. i'll say one thing about trump when he when he did that number on iran, they were broke. >> they were absolutely broke. when i left, they were broke. they had ne dio there was no moy for hamas, for hezbollah. rtheynoas, for hezbollah. anybody. they had no money. and you would say that, too. i mean, i think even the twou wl of you would say they were absolutely stunnedd sa. and you know how much moneyn th they have now in three years under biden, they have 200 and $50 billion. >> again, the energy business is a big businesrss. and not to mention the five hostages is that they paid $6 billion for. not to mention they goait $10 billion for supplying some electricity to iraq, which, by the way, they own. >> and iraq has 300 billion dollars in essentially a subsidiary. >> it's a subsidiary of of iran . >> it should have never. happened. iraq, remember, i used to say a long time ago when i was a civilian . now i'm sort of a civilian, but i think i'll never be quite a civilian again.

>> i'd love to be. but i used to say, don't go in to iraq. don't do it. don't do it. t but if you're going to do it, keep the oilt keep. remember, keep the oil. they didn't keep the. so they have $300 billion and we have nothing. >> we have nothing. you know, they used to say about wars to the victor belong the spoils. >> we go into some place weng obliterated and then we leave. >> we are run by fools. we're run by stupid people. but we ran it very smart for four years. and we want everything. we want everything. mr. president, you talked a lotr about policy. you get questions about what a second term is going to look like whe.n in your rallies you spend a lot of time talking about retribution. and so there are questions about how much a second termof of a donald trump presidency, second terumm would be about and retribution and looking backwards and grievances loo and how much would be looking forward. >> well, first of all, a lot of people would say that that's so bad. look what they did. russia, russia, russia hugs the fbi twitter hoax, the 51

intelligence agents hoax, all of these different hoaxes that they did. i mean, you know, a lo tamean, you know, a lo of people would say that's probably quite normal. >> i'm not going to have time fo n goingr retribution. >> we're going to make this country so successful again. i'm not going to have time for retruse]n and i rememberme for this, our ultimate retributioner is success. >> when we had jus this,t prior to the china virus coming in, if you don't mind, i'd like to be accurate. >> as opposed to covid. it is a china virus. it camurate. out oe at a wound. and i said a long time agon. on your show. your show. it came out of wuhan. they were saying it came out of caves, bat caves, were sa bat caves 2000 miles away, came out of italy. it came out of france. now it came oualy,t wuhan, the labs. >> and i don't and by the way, i don't think it was done properly. ofoperly. of incompetence. >> that's what i think. i believe that a scientist went out, said hello to his s s girlfriend, and that wasd the end of that. she died and then people started dying all ovepeo the place. but who knows? who knows? i can tell you one thing. i got along with president xi, but i took in four hundred

billion dollars in tariffs and taxes from china. and one of the reasons china's not doing so well today is because of those tariffs and biden wants to cut them. >> you know, he got paid offn by chinawa after all. >> so he wants to help the people. they gave him a lot of money, but he's a manchurian candidate in the truest sense. >> he got money from china. he got money from russiaa,. >> you remember the debate where chris wallace how is the o he doing, i wonder? >> but chris wallace when i said when i said to biden,me i asked him a question. i said got, how come you got three and a half million dollars from the mayor of moscow, his wifm ma e and chrise yowifm ma wallace wouldn't let me ask me. >> i said, why are you stopping this now? it's turned out to be a big deal. i got three and a half million dollars from the mayor of moscow. so if i tell you this, we're going to have a success that's so great that i won't have hopefully, i won't have time foss r retribution.r >> there won't be retribution. there will be success. mrion.. president, before we wrp up this, you know, there is this report. house democrats documents that say that nearly $8 million

in payments to your businesses from foreign governments, china included arabia while you were in office. they say article one of the constitution says you can't accept money from foreign governments while president. would you pledge to divest from your business in a second term, as other presidents have done? >> so that's what that's what they're reportingsts what. >> i own hotels all over the. i don't get free money. orterents, hotel room, etc., et. much money i gave back. in fact, i didn't have to do it. here. >> george washington was a very rich man. people don't knoople donw in his essentially white house, which wasn't built, but they had housn office, he had a business desk and he had a country desk right next to each other. you're allowed to do that. i didn't do it.t >> i put everything in trust. and if i have a hote havl and somebody comes in from china, that's a small amount of money. and it sounds like a lot of money. that's a small. but i was doing services for that. s dog these massive hotels, these beautiful hossive hotels, these beautiful hotels, i have the best clubs, i have the best clubs. i have i have great stuff.d and they stay there and they

pay. i don't get $8 million for doing nothing like hunter. >> i don't get i don'tg get $500,000. i don'int get $500,000 for doing a painting. >> it's not a bad idea. i guess if you can get awayba with it. when i heard that, when i said there's no way they get awayea. with that, but they got away with that, i guess they got away with it now we have you know, there was an emoluments lawsuit against me where they radical left, sued me for that, and i won the suit. and the ite judge, they go to te hotels, what are you going to ddoo? fro >> there you go. bob, we want to hear more from iowa voters. we're going to take a quick break. >> we'll be back here in des moines with more of ouquick bar town with former town with former president donald trump. singing is my career and myr fai calling, but i'm also a mother of four. >> and as entrepreneurs, we weigh the costlys of every one o decision. medical bills are no longer

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america is listening. welcome back to our town hall pi where former president trump we're glad to have all orump.f you with us tonight. we want to try to get in a few more questions here. we have a lot of good ones. let's go to rebecca. she is a mom of six from ogden.m >> there she is. hi, rebecca. hi.x are you decided leaning towards one person or another? >> oh, got leanings here in iowa? >> well, for me, it all comes down to this question. so between you, sir, president trum p, ron desantis,ut because you both talk a lot about pro-life, your record, and that's my number one issue and the cry of my hear at is justice for all people. and i've been, you knol w, vocal and celebrating with you all of your pro-life victories from the past. but then in this campaign, you've also blamed pro-lifers foou hav r some of the gop losss around the country, and you've called heartbeat laws like

iowa's terrible. and so i'd just like some clarity on this because lik such an important question to me. i'd like for you to reassure meu cae for you to reassure that you can protect all life every person's right to without compromise. >> so and it's a great question and i appreciate it, too. you wouldn't be asking that question even talking about the issue, because for 50 four years they were trying to get roe v. wade terminated dd and. >> i did it and i'm proud to have done it. they wanted to get it back right. >> we wouldn't be have that.lebr there would be no question nobody else was going to get that done. ate yeah. and we did it.hing and we did something that was a miracle. d on >> when i walked onto the stage today, a gentleman in the prday, a gentleman in the nice guy, said, sir, i'd like to thank you. i said, for what he said, you saved 2 million lives in the las t three years. >> you saved 2 million lives. and i said, thank you very much. i knew exactlys i what he meant.dy h 2 million lives and nobody's o done more in that regard. now, i happen to be, for the exceptions like ronald the

reagan with the life of the mother. ,. i have. i just have to be there. i feel i think probably 78% or so, paul, about 78% was ronald r reagan. ll say >> he was for it. i was for it. but i will say thiavs. >> you have to win elections,ot otherwise you're goingherwis toa back where you were and you can't let that ever happen you n. et that ever happen you got to win elections. if you look at it, irak n doesna as i don't know what he really believes because, you know, you never know with a politician and he's just another politician, as far as i'm concerned. tician but his poll numbers have gonebs down to a level that he's going to be out of the race very soon. >> going to be a very soon. and i watched him lasti watche . >> he's standing up with his shoes, fancy shoes up, and he's going to be out of the race within, you know, a lot of peoplt of e before before new hampshire. i don't know if that was the reason, i hope it wasn't the reason. >> i hope it's for other reason it iss. bu >> i can see a lot of other

reasons why he shouldn't be. but he's doing very, very poorly. >> it happened to coincide with that becaus e a lotat becaus of people say a lot of, you know, if you talk five or six weeks, a lot of womeekn don know if they're pregnant in five or six weeks. >> i want to get something i wagee people happy.thing you know, this has been tearing the country apart for years. >> nobody's been able to do anything. and again, you can only ask that question and you ask it brilliantly. >> and i understanestion and asa you're coming from. >> i love the way you're coming from. but we still have to win elections. >> and they've used this.n th you know, we have some great republicans and they're great on the issue. and you woul you would loved love them t on the issue. and a lot of them have just beenhe decimated in the election. decimated. i mean, absolutely. >> so we're going to come upmet with that. people want and people like i love you to first of all, you have to go with your heart. you have to go with your heart first. >> go with your heart, your mind, go with it. but you do als. o o puo have to put ittions.

there a little bit. you have to win elections. but if it weren't for me yo with roe v wade, you wouldn't even be talking about this. you wouldn't be asking b that because i would write back and remember this. they're the radicals. we're not the radicalswe are n . they'll kill a baby. remember, i had the debate with crooked clinton, which i don't call it crooked any more. use it now for joe biden, iden.as you. i call a beautiful hillary. she's a beautiful woman. y.but -- but in the debatee with with with hillary clinton, i said they said, you know, she's willing to rip the babynit out of the in the ninth month. >> and, you know, i never heard. it happened to me. durin it just came to me during that debate. i didn't go up there thinking gh was going to say that. >> and she even winced. nobody to see that happeningr after a certain period of time. nobodya ce. >> they're the radicals because they're willing to kill baby in eight months, nine months, or even after birth. >> i f you remember the former governor of virginia where he said, you kilkilledl baby afr the ninth month or even afterort it's you set, the baby aside

and you have a conversation with the mother out of the conversation. >> can you imagine? but these are the radicals . . >> we're not the radicals. we are not the radicals, but we're living a time whene ha there has to be a little bitcons way e has to be a little bitcons the other. and i think, you know, i want to getor anoth i want to get itu i have to get it right. but without what i did would never even be asking that question because there was foat question because there was to happen for 54 years, they campaigned on that issue and nobody pulled it offulle with me. >> so i think you're going to be happy in the end. thank you very much. e happthank you very much forer that question. let's go to bo. >> bo, you're from madrid, iowa. madrid. >> i'm so sorry to get through every city. >> well. madrid. do you know how you're going to caucuu ou s? >> trump 100%. oh, i like it. are you do i have a question? thank you. go ahead. how would you de-escalate w global tensionoulds and keep

the united states out of foreign wars? >> yeah, do it through reig peace, it through through strength, you know. i rough strength, you know. i was the only president for 78 years. no war started with now. i wiped out isis. you know, i did a thing that wasisis won't go into name. i won't go into specifics. but we did the thing but we did the thing possible. >> they did very quickly. i withdrew froi m syria. i withdrew from iraq. i withdrew. they want to put back.s that we're in countries that don't even want us with countriewants >> a lot of you never even heard the names of these countries. you know, there'names. s a great there'names. leader, in my opinion, is very strong. some people say it's terrible to sayinion. that he is viktor . he's the prime minister of hungary. >> and they said, what would you do? there are wars all over the world right? he said, what i do is make sure the american people vote for makedonald trump for president, because when he was president, china feared him. >> i don'tump, want to be feare, but he is the trump i'm not using the term president. she's a very tough cookie, but i think they did fear us.

>> china feared russia. freedom, everybody. china along with kim jonglong un, you know, getting along with people with hundreds of nuclear weapons is not a bad thing. you know, they want to make it like a bad thing. it's a good thing. >> but peace through strength, they didn't want to mess around. >> it would have never happened in ukraine wan, would have never gone in, would have never happened. the recent attack on israe atta. have never happened. >> 100 i mean, zero percent hap chance that was going to happen. >> they see a weak president in unth see at y and they didnt in something that was unthinkable. so we're going to have peace through strength. >> we're not going to have to fight. so on the other. with that being said eingd yo, being said you always have to be prepared. and i rebuil.t our entire military.y. and think of it, biden gave $85 billion worth of our military to, afghanistan, so stupidly, brand new tanks and planes, everything. 700,000 rifles and guns 70,000 vehicles, many of them armor plated vehicles. ople

>> and by the way, people dieds 13 great soldiers died. i've gotten to know the families very well t. >> many horribly hurt and hundreds of people killed. whenhurt you include those hunds of people killed in the most embarrassing moment in the history of our country. so i really appreciated the question and i appreciate very muci h that you with me and i'm with you to share from the other side of the party. there are many like governor haley, who said that you are now more of an isolatio n this than you were and that you got many concessions from, narrow members as president to increase their defense budget, hundreds of billions. d mabut a real concern what a second trump term would mean. >> would you be committe trumpdi to nato for example, in a second trump term? depends if they try to juscondt look. nato is taking advantage of ours country. the european countries took advantage of i want to use a word starting with an s,se but i don't want to do it because i see some young, very good looking goo children in the

audience and i assume they're watching on television, but they took advantage of us on trade and then they took advantage of us on our militarny protection. of the 28 countries at the cou o timenl, only eight countries wee paid up. we were paying the differencyine and i went to them. i said, if you don't pay, we're not going to protect you. ngprotecand they said, you mean? >> i said, i mean that. and the next day, billionsnext of dollars poured into nato. >> the reason they have money right now to prosecutehey what they're doing with helping ukraine is because of the moneay got them. so, you know, peace through strength. mr. president, we appreciate your time. thank you very much. i'm here in the mornine apg. ere in the mornine good to have you with us. thank you very much. so we will be right back with jus we ar witquict a quickt right after this timeout. stay with us . . you're.ond.

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